Showing posts with label discipline (church). Show all posts
Showing posts with label discipline (church). Show all posts

Wednesday, April 25, 2012

Facing Your Spiritual Abuser: Index of Posts About the Star Chamber and the Hot Seat

Sometimes, members of a high demand group or a spiritually abusive church are called in to sessions of confrontation with their group leadership, pastors, and elders in order to intimidate them and to secure their compliance with group demands. And quite often, when people discover problems with manipulation, doctrine, or exploitation within their spiritually abusive church, they feel responsible to inform their leadership. Many people seek out their leaders to inform their leaders that they are leaving their group, just as a courtesy, to find personal closure, and sometimes, to hopefully make their spiritual abuser aware of the hurtful if not harmful nature of their actions – a personal courtesy to them.

Tuesday, April 17, 2012

The Radical Act of Following the Spirit, God's Optimistic Response, and Commitment to Holiness: Coming Full Circle on Matthew 18

 If we look back on all that Matthew tells us of what Jesus said on the day that He uttered the entire discourse in Matthew Chapter 18, there are many difficult things that we must balance. Forgiveness is hard work, but so is respect for God's holiness, as well as the fear and trembling commitment we must make as Christians to mortify (to put to death) the nature of our flesh every day. To have less of myself and my desires so that the nature and image of Christ in me can increase, I must set aside my own desires and make a commitment to do what the standard of the Bible clearly delineates as true and good.

Monday, April 16, 2012

How Did the Jews Treat the Tax Collector, and How Should Christians Treat Christians Who Refuse to Repent of Sin?

Though the matter of the principles established in Matthew 18:15-17 have been reviewed, nothing has been said about how a person should be treated on a practical level if they refuse to repent of sin, even after the matter has been taken before the local church for other members to plead with them. Some Christians believe that the passage should be interpreted to mean that the person should be marked and avoided in the same manner that a harmful and divisive person or false teacher should be treated. Some believe that the person should be treated no different than any other non-Christian, but that they should not go out of their way to spend any kind of meaningful social time with them. The interaction should not be one of hard-hearted disregard, but it should not be a comfortable association in the way that close friends behave with one another.

The matter of differing opinions warrants a review.

Friday, April 13, 2012

Postulating Matthew 18 as Love for Sinners that is Balanced with Respect for the Destructive Nature of Sin


 
I received an email from a kind and gentle pastor past week who wrote to me about the use of Matthew 18 as a model for church discipline. The passage does talk about sin, and as he put it, the offended person doesn't necessarily need to take the offense all the way through the process, requiring that a matter be taken before the congregation. The passage does present a model for confronting another believer about sin over which they do not repent, and if a church leader needs to confront one of their parishioners, this is certainly a good model which lays out principles for doing that. As Pastor Johnson noted, however, he sees it as more of a matter of principles as opposed to a formal procedure.

Thursday, April 12, 2012

More Masticating on Matthew 18: Thoughts From Readers and Other Sundry Sources


A few people have commented to me about my example of a woman who was “Matthew 18'ed” (a process of the misuse of the passage to have her family thrown out of fellowship) over issues related to her children and volleyball games.  Some people have also offered other observations, some of which echo previous posts on this topic. They've given me permission to post some of their thoughts on the subject.

Wednesday, April 11, 2012

Turning Matthew 18 into a Litigious Process and Using the “Big Lie” to Disguise It

 
I don't know that I can even begin to list all of the personal experiences that others have related to me concerning the misuses of Scripture within spiritually abusive churches. There are too many to count. At this point, as I listen and find myself plugging in the specifics into that predictable pattern of manipulative techniques, forgetting most of the details. If the so called “Matthew 18 Process” has been used to declare a person non-Christian for the obvious purpose of silencing their voice in a court of law, I tend to remember that distinction. But from time to time, some of the personal details seem more memorable.

Tuesday, April 10, 2012

Should or Can We Tell the Secrets of the Star Chamber? Discernment, Shouting Error from the Rooftops and Naming Names


Below is a widely cited and noted sermon about exposing error that I was given permission to post several years ago. I apparently never posted it but will offer it here now, considering its relevance over the discussion that has arisen regarding the Joyful Exiles and the Mark Driscoll/Mars Hill controversy.

I don't share all of the opinions on all counts offered by Pastor Bynum, but I don't know that there's a soul alive with whom I share all of the same opinions. :) He offers a great review of the Scriptures concerning behavior and discernment. It goes hand in hand with Dr. Paul Martin's material about noting behavior, fruit and motive of abusive ministers, and that only 10% of Scriptures that address spiritual abusers deal with doctrine.

Sermon by E.L. Bynum

Monday, April 9, 2012

Stepping Forward On Behalf of the Abused and Bringing Injustice Into the Light (If the Reformers had Access to the Internet, Don't You Think They Would Use It?)


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Four years ago Kevin Johnson preached a great series of sermons about the proper love and care of people by their pastors and also wrote the blog post that was republished here last week. When I wrote to him to write something that could be posted here on this topic, he also sent along some additional discussion that took place elsewhere online. The matter became a fresh topic of conversation here because of the Petrys' online posting about their experience of spiritual abuse at Mark Driscoll's Mars Hill Church.

Friday, April 6, 2012

More on the Misunderstanding and Misapplication of Matthew 18: An Excuse to Draw Church Members Into the Star Chamber


 A review and further exploration of this modest passage of three verses Scripture.
Dealing with a Sinning Brother

“Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother.  But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’  And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.  Matthew 18:15-17

Thursday, April 5, 2012

Principles Not Procedures: Understanding the Meaning of Matthew 18

Guest Post by Kevin D. Johnson

Originally published at Reformed Catholicism.com
June 2008 and April 1, 2012


(emphasis added to original text by blog host)
 


No one doubts that Matthew 18 is a relevant passage in dealing with resolving offenses between brothers, but the procedure outlined in Matthew 18:15-17 is set in a very specific context that is often overlooked. In churches where spiritual abuse is occurring particularly at the hands of ministers and pastors who rule by fear, intimidation, and the inordinate and inappropriate use of Scripture–passages like this can become a very powerful weapon to accomplish and maintain abuse instead of legitimate repentance and reconciliation.

Wednesday, April 4, 2012

What is Matthew 18 and How Do Spiritual Abusers Misuse It to Manipulate and Control?

For the benefit of those who read here who may not be familiar with the passage, the 18th Chapter of the Book of Matthew in the New Testament deals with the themes of sin, offense, and forgiveness. Verses 15 through 19 of the chapter concern the words of Jesus' instructions about how to approach another member of your local assembly or faith community after they've sinned against you. It seems to echo the Sermon on the Mount that Jesus gave wherein He encourages peace, tolerance, and forgiveness among brothers in the faith (Matthew 5:21- 26).

Tuesday, April 3, 2012

Does Scripture Address the Star Chamber Itself?

 
I believe that it does. Consider also the Scriptures that discuss Spiritual Abuse as well.

As previously stated repeatedly at this point, I think that the greatest disadvantage that people have when walking into these meetings involves a naïve and very optimistic view which lends itself to some unrealistic expectations. I also understand, on the other hand, how they are needful for some people who believe that they have a duty to say certain things directly to their ministers, and I respect that. In fact, I've done it myself on many occasions. Sometimes such meetings seem needful because they serve as the moment of realization that the group is truly abusive, emotionally and spiritually. I hope that the information on my blog will help you realize what I did not and will help you to anticipate what you will be facing.

Friday, March 30, 2012

Questions About the Hot Seat/Star Chamber: Work Related Issues – Working for a religious group and working for a secular employer who uses manipulative tactics.

 Question #5: What if you work for the church?


When You're Just a Member and Not an Employee

Thursday, March 29, 2012

Questions About the Hot Seat/Star Chamber: Don't Church Leaders Realize Just How Abusive They Are?


 
Thank you, David Hayward
Question #4: How could they have not known what they were doing? How could my pastor have said and done such awful things to me and my family?

One does not have to be part of a spiritually abusive denomination or religious movement to encounter spiritually abusive behavior. Many reading this post will have had nothing to do with a church that follows set practices that advocate a formal, abusive “authority-submission structure.” However, I suspect that many people identify with the problem. Many people have thought much better of their religious leaders, only to be disappointed by them. Sometimes that is a failing in the system that a group follows, and sometimes, it is just a failing in individuals.

Wednesday, March 28, 2012

Questions About the Hot Seat/Star Chamber: Does Someone Teach Thought Reform to Pastors Under the Guise of Good Christian Practice?

Question #3: Did my pastor possibly learn and study thought reform, believing that it was something else? (He's so good at it, and it fits the list of dynamics of thought reform too well.)

In short, I believe that some pastors within some denominations, particularly aberrant ones, are taught certain techniques of thought reform as legitimate and Biblical standards of conduct. Sometimes, those standards are billed as something that sets the group apart from other Christians, and they are generally communicated indirectly through modeled behavior and under the guise of “how we do things here.” Ministers don't pull out books titles concerning thought reform to learn how to manipulate, but the techniques do become part of the culture and are taught to leadership within the group as legitimate Christian behavior within spiritually abusive systems.

Tuesday, March 27, 2012

Questions About the Hot Seat/Star Chamber: Does My Pastor Deliberately Use Thought Reform?



Question #2: While reading these blog posts about the Hot Seat and the Star Chamber, I recognize how the same things on the list happened to me on a couple of occasions. If this kind of manipulation is a process does that mean that my pastor studied these techniques and used them deliberately? Could they happen spontaneously?

Monday, March 26, 2012

Questions About the Hot Seat/Star Chamber: Do I Really See Spiritual Abuse All Around Me?

 Question #1: I just read your blog, and I realize that I've seen other people use these same dynamics outside of a religious setting.  I'm starting to see these patterns everywhere, and I'm really freaked out.  What does it mean?

Seeing thought reform everywhere or just single elements of it after you've been to the “hot seat” or in a “star chamber” is part of recognizing that you were traumatized – that something terrible happened to you in those sessions. 

Seeing the same patterns elsewhere is a part of your brain's effort to keep you safe.

Friday, March 23, 2012

What Do You Risk When You Go to a Star Chamber/Hot Seat Meeting? (and more on the never ending Mars Hil/Driscoll Drama)


I was quite surprised that, while I'd already begun posting on this topic, a former elder/pastor of Mark Driscoll's Mars Hill organization came forward online to reveal the details of their own experiences within a spiritually abusive system. The husband and wife team have written some details about different star chamber meetings that they'd attended as a part of their experiences there.

Tuesday, March 20, 2012

The Violence of Thought Conversion: Wrapped in Gentleness and in Cruelty

I thought I would mention a bit more about my own experience with informal discipline tactics that church leaders and cultic groups use to exploit and manipulate members. In years past on this site, I've mentioned the many gentle sessions of double bind and informal logical fallacy I endured directly with my pastor in his study when I approached him about things that were said from the pulpit that didn't quite sound right doctrinally. When I left the church office, I would feel disoriented and exhausted in a detached and pleasant sort of way, and I'd often go home to nap until dinner.

Monday, March 19, 2012

Thought Conversion on the Hot Seat


In the previous post, I discussed what my husband and I dubbed “The Star Chamber,” the interrogation and intimidation sessions that our former cultic church elders regularly adjudicated in the pastor's study when they wanted to address what they saw as serious behavioral non-compliance in members. Though the elders had their star chamber meetings, the thought conversion exercises were not limited to those more formal sessions. Though their manipulation was certainly not limited to only the formal sessions, the confrontations with the group of elders was quite powerful. Manipulation in informal settings can be just as effective, but star chamber sessions could affect much emotional, psychological, and spiritual harm, a special practice that involved a higher level of manipulation and force because of the ritual and the fact that a person was outnumbered by eight authority figures (the number of elders and pastors we had at the time of my attendance).