My Critique of the Danvers Statement, Part VI of VI (Rationales 7 - 10)

Link HERE to a my Reponse to the Affirmations.

Here, I offer my own response to the Danvers Statement, but I also draw from Dr. Robert K McGreggor Wright’s response as noted in the Journal of Biblical Equality.

Responding to CBMW’s Danvers Statement Rationales:

• CBMW’s statements are noted in DARK BLUE.
• Dr. Wright’s commentary or references to his work are noted in PURPLE.

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My Critique of the Danvers Statement, Part V of VI (Rationales 4 - 6)

Link HERE to a My Reponse to the Affirmations.



Responding to CBMW’s Danvers Statement Rationales:

• CBMW’s statements are noted in DARK BLUE.

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My Critique of the Danvers Statement, Part IV of VI (Rationales 1 - 3)

Link here to a My Response to the Affirmations.

Responding to CBMW’s Danvers Statement Rationales:

• CBMW’s statements are noted in DARK BLUE.

Preceding the Affirmations in the Danvers Statement, those who drafted it first established “Rationales.”  They note in the short preamble:  “Prior to the listing of the actual affirmations that comprise the Danvers Statement, we have included a section detailing contemporary developments that serve as the rationale for these affirmations.”  As I was unsure that I would be able to make it through very much of this document, I addressed the “Affirmations” first.  I find that there are a few things that do need to be clarified.

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My Critique of the Danvers Statement, Part III of VI (Affirmations 6 -10)

Here, I offer my own response to the Danvers Statement, but I also draw from Dr. Wright’s response to the Danvers Statement as noted in the Journal of Biblical Equality.

Link to Part I HERE  (Affirmations 1 & 2).
Link to Part II HERE (Affirmations 3, 4 & 5).


Responding to CBMW’s Danvers Statement Affirmations:

• CBMW’s statements are noted in DARK BLUE.
• Dr. Wright’s commentary or references to his work are noted in PURPLE. 

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My Critique of the Danvers Statement, Part II of VI (Affirmations 3 - 5)

Link to Part I HERE  (Affirmations 1 & 2).


Responding to the Council on Manhood and Womanhood's (CBMW) Danvers Statement Affirmations:

• CBMW’s statements are noted in DARK BLUE.
• Dr. Robert K McGreggor Wright’s commentary or references to his work are noted in PURPLE.

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My Critique of the Danvers Statement, Part I of IV

A few weeks ago, I posted Shirley Taylor’s response to the Danvers Statement.  My responses are a bit different, and I find the Danvers Statement of CBMW so frustrating and misleading, I’ve never written out my own response.  Many people find my approach to this topic confusing, because my focus differs from most people engaged in the ever ongoing debate. 

My interests in the intramural issue of Women in Ministry concern the spiritually abusive tactics used to advance opinions on both sides of the discussion moreso than the specifics themselves.  The Council on Manhood and Womanhood (CBMW) uses propaganda to advance their assertion that gender relates directly to God’s identity, claiming that it is a matter of the essentials of faith as opposed to an intramural issue, so this is of concern to me.  In their lack of liberty and love for fellow believers in conjunction with highly questionable interpretation of certain Scriptures, I believe that CBMW manifests spiritual abuse and thought reform dynamics quite notably. My primary interest concerns their employment of manipulation, not the specifics of the debate itself.

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Deciphering and Responding to Loaded, Complex Questions

Vyckie Garrison at NoLongerQuivering.com posted a response to one of the many frequently asked questions she hears in response to her website and those who participate there.  Though she now rejects the alleged wisdom offered by the whole of the Quiverfull Movement (QF) and its theology, she loves and celebrates her children, often mentioning the new joy and freedom that the kids enjoy since the family abandoned the legalistic standards it demanded of them all.  Vyckie’s latest response and “FAQ” concerns the defensive questions that Christians still involved in QF ask her, though I really don’t find them to be questions at all.  Her excellent response is quite moving and should not be missed.

Which of your 7 children would you go back and kill in order to not have lived the life you lived up to this point?

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A Review of Andersen's "Woman this is War" Part III of III (Concerning Abuse and Insidious Totalitarianism)

Why I Never Bought the Whole of Complementarianism: 

A Review of "Woman This is War:  

Gender, Slavery, and the Evangelical Caste System"

The Kingdom of God Suffers Violence,

and the Violent have Taken Some by Force.

  

Jocelyn Andersen Takes Back Major Ground in her New Book

Read Part I of the Review HERE. 

Read Part II of the Review HERE.

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God Discussion on the topic of Spiritual Abuse on BlogTalk Radio

From GodDiscussion.com about the 05Aug10 Show:

Did a negative religious experience leave you feeling shattered, vulnerable, or ashamed?  You're not alone.

Spiritual abuse pervades many peoples' lives, whether through authoritarian, patriarchal religions, dominionist Christian sects, or even in New Age movements.  We'd love to  hear your story … and hopefully, give you some support and empathy during this week's God Discussion show.

Please join in at the God Discussion Show tonight, Thursday, August 5, 2010, at 7:00 PM Pacific time. (10:00 PM for East Coast night owls!)  The show lasts for 2 hours but has been reserved 3 hours just in extra time will be needed.  If sleep overtakes you, pop in later to listen to the archive of the on demand episodes in the archive, and also revisit the interview, "A Look Inside the Quiverfull Movement" (original air date 08Jul10), with No Longer Quivering's Vyckie Garrison !

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A Valiant Warrior (I've Found One and She is Worth Far More than Rubies)

Many people have voiced concern to me by email regarding the "Demand for an Apology"  Letter to officials at the Council on Manhood and Womanhood (CBMW).  I apologize if I have not specifically answered your note if you read this blog post before I get back with you!  Among many different comments, some say that demands should not have been made because expecting an apology from such a hubristic and recalcitrant group will ultimately yield no results and such attempts will be futile.  Some believe that it is wrong to use language that might promote confrontation.  Some believe that rebuking the group in favor of a "demand" would be more appropriate.

I would like to challenge those who took issue with the Demand Letter for one reason or another but find problems with the abuses of CBMW's ideology to draft their own letter reflecting their own concerns and send it to CBMW.

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A Review of Andersen's "Woman this is War" Part II of III (Concerning Doctrine and Gender Bias)

Why I Never Bought the Whole of Complementarianism: 

A Review of "Woman This is War:  

Gender, Slavery, and the Evangelical Caste System"

The Kingdom of God Suffers Violence,

and the Violent have Taken Some by Force.

  

Jocelyn Andersen Takes Back Major Ground in her New Book

Read Part I of the Review HERE.

The book also explores the doctrinal problems within Complementarianism in a thought-provoking way, putting far more eloquent words to my greatest criticism of complementarian explanations of Scripture.  I've long wondered whether these scholars ever really understood Jewish culture or Greek culture and how the original language was used in context, particularly concerning the doctrines regarding gender!  I studied Greek with a pastor who converted from Judaism, teaching Greek from the perspective of how the Jews used the Greek language which greatly enriched my understanding of Scripture.  Andersen describes compementarianism's narrow perspective as Gender-Biased-English-Translation-Theology.   This chapter establishes a strong basis for other doctrinal arguments she makes while addressing complementarian teaching.  I'm inclined to state that this is perhaps the most valuable thesis stated in the book, but that does not do justice to the rest of the content of the book.

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